Back story ...
- We live in
a house with a barn at the end of the garden. We have converted the
barn into a home and intend to gut, renovate and then rent out the house.
- I have
recently had a book published and both urgently and constantly need phone
and internet access for marketing it. I have had business cards printed and distributed with my phone number and email address on them. I have sent out press releases and
magazine pitches via email and need to respond immediately to replies. I
tweet and use Facebook, Linkedin and other social media, all of which have
a positive effect on sales and keeping my name and my book in people's
minds. Networking being so very important these days my sales rise
and fall dramatically depending on whether or not I am active online.
My agent, publishers and publicist communicate via a joint Dropbox in the
cloud which now, of course, is not available to me.
- Even more
important and upsetting we have a family member with terminal cancer and
need to be in touch with him (so far he is still living alone in his own
home in Newcastle) on a daily basis.
27/10/13
On 27th June we arranged with BT for the transfer
of the line from our house to the barn on Friday 26th July
between 8.00 am and 1.00 pm and based on that date made other
arrangements for our move. During the intervening month we received a
call from the engineers asking us to confirm some details of the location and
he called later to say this was fine and the work could go ahead.
26/07/13
• No-one
showed up all morning but we moved and at 12.55 pm our line was
disconnected, 15 minutes later I received a text message...
"We are really apologize (sic) that the engineer could not
visit your new address to activate the telephone line. Reason for Delay:
Job Delayed with TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. Next Update Friday 16 /08/13.
We will keep you updated so that you needn't call us back. Thank You Bt
(sic)"
• Called
the 0800 800 150 waited 20 minutes then spoke to a girl in India who
gave me the number to call. It was 0800 800 150!
• Called
again and got a guy in Birmingham who spoke to the engineers who said
the work could not be done because "it is a very busy road" and they
need clearance from the council. Seemingly they assume a road is quiet
till proved otherwise!
• I
asked for the line to be switched on again but was told this is not possible
and I would be updated on 16th August.
• I
was told a manager would call me back on my mobile within the hour. He/she
didn't. This phone call, including waiting time, took over an hour.
• I
called again and spoke to girl who said she would do her best to arrange for
the service to be switched back on sometime Monday (although transferring the
line would still not happen till at least the 16th) and would call
me back to let me know how she got on. She didn't.
29/07/13
• Spoke
to a savvy guy who set up a temporary phone number to our house and said it
would be charged at the same rate as our original line ***.
He suggested I get a dongle for temporary internet access and credited our
account £25 to cover this.
30/07/13
• Contacted
people saying that I would be out of action for day or two till I got a
dongle. Sadly this information was wrong.
31/07/13
• Tried
to get a dongle but all suppliers, including BT, say there is not sufficient
reception where I live.
• Spoke
to Durham who said we could cancel the order and have our old number
back with 48 hours. We could then rearrange the transfer for a later
date. She said she'd transfer us but unfortunately it was a wrong
number!
• Re-dialled
and talked to a guy in India who didn't really understand but
eventually decided he couldn't do what we were asking and indeed no-one
in India could deal with this problem and he couldn't transfer us to
anyone who could.
• Tried
again - same guy.
• 3rd call
we got a Scottish chap who, after about half an hour discussion, came up with
the information that he couldn't deal with it and transferred us to ....
• ...
Open Reach in India who after about 10 minutes transfer us to ...
• ...
Open Reach in Warrington. They said cancelling the order was not the thing
to do as it would take until at least 5th August to reconnect
and there was no guarantee that we would get our original number back.
• She
transferred us to Order Management in India, the guy's English was not
very good so he transferred us to his supervisor.
• We
asked if it would be possible to speed up the procedure and transfer the line
within the next few days, he said "No" and that was it.
01/08/13
I posted the above information in a letter to the BT
Correspondence Centre at an address in Durham given to me by one of
the friendly folk above.
03/08/13
"Hello - this is a message from BT. This is to confirm we
will contact you 20/08/13 by 20.00 to discuss the delay in activation
of your services. There is no need to contact us as we will not be able
to provide you with any more information. Thank you. Sender 2123001"
06/08/13
Emailed BT from a friend's and was told I would receive a reply
within 24 hours, I didn't. Filled in complaints form at https://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/5642,5681 but have not heard anything.
07/08/13
Received a call from India in response to my letter sent
to Durham to reassure me that work would be done as soon as possible
after 16thAugust. I gave him some details, he was surprised and gave
me a direct number to Order Management.
Called the number held in a queue with a recording every few
minutes saying "will be answered". After 25 minutes I realised
as I had already got through to the number I was being charged for this long
wait.
I hung up and just for a laugh called 0800 800 150 and was held in
a line for a few minutes and then an automated service took my mobile number
and said they would hold my place in the line and call back within the hour.
They didn't.
08/08/13
I called 0800 800 150 again twice, as above, no return calls.
12/08/13
Wrote to Warren Buckley asking for his help, no reply.
19/08/13
BT called to say would be erecting traffic lights on 22nd August.
22/08/13
No traffic lights by 5.30 pm so I rang and bugger me if I didn't
get through to a sensible girl in England who spoke to the engineers who said
the lights were scheduled for 7.00 pm. and also that the distribution box was
full and they needed to split the line before completing the work
At 7.00 there was a Traffic Lights van outside and bollards had
been placed for some way along the road BUT they had gone again an hour later!
23/08/13
Called BT and was told the engineers had arrived that morning but
were unable to do the work as there was a parked car in the way! How odd,
if this is true, that they didn't knock at our door or any of our neighbours to
find out whose it was or to get it moved.
BT called on my mobile to say that they needed to do some work at
the exchange first and would update us by 8.00 pm that day.
They didn't. I called the number and got a recorded message:
"We tried to call you
but there was no answer ... you have not been charged for this call."
24/08/13
Called 0800 800 150 and spoke to a guy in India who said
it's in the hands of a facilitator and that he'd put a note on the
file. As it was a bank holiday he'd try to ensure someone calls 8.00
pm on 27th August but, this did not mean the work would be
done then!
27/08/13
No one rang.
Sent an updated letter to Warren Buckley, still no reply.
28/08/13
Called BT and some genius said they could add internet to our
temporary line and did! I was very pleased and wished they'd done it
earlier.
04/09/13
I went to France with a friend leaving my partner
in UK and giving BT his daytime and mobile numbers. I had
expected the situation to be resolved by my return on 24th September.
12/09/13
BT texted me in France to say they had called but were
unable to get hold of me. I tried to reply to the text to
re-iterate UK numbers but not possible to reply to that number.
.
16/09/13
Received a text, in France, saying they would contact me on
the 18th September.
18/09/13
Received a phone call, in France, from BT, told them again
the UK numbers and was told that they'd call my partner in a day or
two to let him know how things are going.
20/09/13
I received, in France naturally, a text saying ...
We have tried to contact you unsuccessfully. We apologise for the
delay in providing you with Telephone service, we are working with our
engineers to resolve this. We will contact you again on 27/09/13
24/09/13
*** On my return to the UK I opened my post and do not
think it is as agreed.
25/09/13
Called 0800 800 150 and said "billing". Spoke to a
guy who said he was from "Customer Optimisation". I asked what that
was and he explained that it meant "customer optimisation". I
didn't so much discuss the bill as rant on about what a balls up this is and he
was less than helpful.
26/09/13
Filled in another BT complaint form.
27/09/13
Received a reply to above complaint form filling in, it basically
said the matter was in hand and traffic lights would be erected on 30thSeptember.
No apologies or even much politeness about the situation.
30/09/13
During the day bollards were placed along the road and then, late
afternoon a real live man from Open Reach came to see us.
He told us that the work that needs doing is under the road
opposite the bus stop about 20m up the road. He said traffic lights need
to be erected to do this work and that there is a car parked there so not
poss.
He then said that there is an embargo on putting traffic lights up
during the hours of daylight on our road due to the large lorries that use
it. (There have been other service with daytime traffic lights and I have
the pics). He said that so far as he could see the situation was
impossible and suggested we cancel the order and ask for a switch ie. extend
the line down the garden, and worry about reconnecting the house when the time
comes which would be with less pressure and forewarned.
02/10/13
We were still thinking about this advice but received a surprise
visit from Open Read who apparently performed a switch by extending our line
from the house to the barn! We assumed from this that our original order had
been cancelled and although we were still considering what to do decided it was
for the best. Fingers crossed.
The guy said to us, no kidding, "Now I've done this probably
other people will turn up to do the work. For a communications company
the communication in BT is terrible."
03/10/13
Received a text from BT saying
"Sorry your orders been
delayed and we need to rearrange your engineer visit. To book another visit
call 0800 800 150.
04/10/13
Received a text from BT saying they will call us on 8th October
to "discuss about the order". Just a few minutes later received
another text saying:
"Sorry. Your
"BT order start date" has changed. Your new engineer's visit is
on
29th October
..!"
That will make it over 3 months.
Also received an email, reputedly from Warren Buckley with same
info giving reference no. HMNMG*************
Called 0800 800 150 to get our old number back. The guy,
Harold, said it was not possible as there was an order pending on this
number. I explained the whole sorry mess to him and he said to hold on
and he'd talk to the engineers. He came back to me and said he had spoken
to two departments. One said we had cancelled the order (we hadn't
although have been advised by BT to cancel it) and the other said they would
cancel the order immediately. He then went to reinstate our original
number and, what a surprise, the order had not been cancelled! He was
quite upset himself and said he will work on it and call be on the mobile
tomorrow. He didn't.
07/10/13
Called O800 800150 and spoke to a girl who put me through to
another girl called Bernadette at Customer Care. She said cancellation of our
original order was "pending" and shortly after confirmed that it had
been cancelled. She applied to have our original number back and said it
should be done within 24 hrs.
Received an email confirmation of the above.
Later same day BT called to say an engineer would be calling on 29th October
to complete the (recently cancelled) order. I explained the situation
although the Indian lady and I had trouble understanding each other.
Received this email ...
Automatic Mailer
This e-mail has been sent by an automated system, please do not respond to this e-mail.
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Hello - This is a message from BT. This is to confirm your telephone service will be activated by midnight 29/10/2013, the engineering appointment is between 08:00 to 13:00. Your reference number is VOL0**********. Thank you for choosing BT
This e-mail has been sent by an automated system, please do not respond to this e-mail.
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Hello - This is a message from BT. This is to confirm your telephone service will be activated by midnight 29/10/2013, the engineering appointment is between 08:00 to 13:00. Your reference number is VOL0**********. Thank you for choosing BT
As you can see this is different from the new order number above!
08/10/13
Received an email from BT (Warren Buckley again - but still no
reply to my direct letter) saying
"We're all done Hello -
now ready for you."
A friend called on the mobile to say that neither our original
number 5 nor our temporary number were working.
Called 0800 800150 and talked to Mark who said that our new number
(!) is now completely different!!! I explained to him all that had gone on and he
has tried very hard to help us out.
He spoke to the engineers who said that there is an order pending
on that number. He said that it had been cancelled and they said that it
was "supposed" to be cancelled but wasn't! He has asked for the
order to be cancelled and our old number reinstated which, he thinks will take
a day for the cancellation and a day for the reinstatement.
09/10/13
We received 2 texts and an email saying …
We need to change some dates
We're sorry, but we need to change the
date that some of your services will start or stop.
Your broadband start date is changing
from 26-Jul-2013 to 29-Oct-2013.
The date your current phone service will
stop is changed to 26-Jul-2013.
Your broadband stop date will also
change - it will now be the same day as your phone line.
Services can start/stop any time up to
midnight on their start/stop date. Any kit you're expecting will arrive on
time.
If you need to change any other dates in
your order or postpone the stopping of any of your current BT services, call us
on 0800 800 150.
You'll need order number
HMNMG*************
Followed by a text saying …
Important BT Order Update –
unfortunately we are unable to provide an update on your order as planned. You do not need to contact us as we will be
in touch before 8 pm on 11th October.
11/10/13
As our original number has not been reinstated I called 0800 800
150, waited 15 minutes, spoke to order management in India who said the order
is completed! Said I needed to speak to
the guy I spoke to in England on 8th October, Mark. The man in India said he could not transfer me. Tried again, same result.
For a short while after this our phone line and broadband went
dead!
Tried again but was not put through to anyone.
No-one called as indicated by yesterday's text.
No-one called as indicated by yesterday's text.
oOo
The road we live on is fairly busy-ish, I suppose, for a single
carriageway main road through a village in Cornwall. The telegraph pole is
on our side of the road directly outside the house, the line needs to be
extended for a few yards down our garden. We own both properties.
So far we have spoken to 20 or more people, been held in line
many, many times usually for 20+ minutes and once for over an hour. When
we do get to speak to a person we have to start all over again, repeating all
the details and telling our story which gets longer each time. We have
not been called back at least 15 times. We have not been replied to twice
by Warren Buckley or his staff (despite being told that is who to contact), BT
complaints in Durham failed to deal with the situation and nor did
BT's complaints department after filling in an online form. We have been
told all sorts of things from we can be reconnected within days to it is
humanly impossible to reconnect us. We have been told the problem is the
distributor box, the exchange, somewhere in between, the busy road, Traffic
Management, not being able to contact us due to me being
in France despite having left two alternative numbers, need clearance
from council, engineers encountering a parked car, and so on. We have
heard so many different versions of what could or should happen next that we
don't know what to believe.
I would very much like this situation resolved asap. I have
lost a great many book sales because of this and also lost momentum in my
writing career but am unsure how this converts to monetary terms. I would
like the money for our recent bill refunded as it is, after all, BT's fault we
needed this temporary line.
Please is there any way you can sort out this problem for us and
also perhaps the problems that BT seem to be experiencing as a whole?
Some suggestions ...
- Check if
the work is to be done on one of Britain's rare busy roads before the
moment of commencement.
- Don't
disconnect a line till confirmation is received from the engineers that
the work can be done.
- Try to get
all staff, all over the world, to synchronise their stories.
- Don't say
you will call back unless you will.
SORRY ABOUT THAT RANT ~ I just wanted to talk to someone!